Yes it's that time again, when we traditionally lay a Christmas wreath on our fantasy teams and pray for a resurrection come Easter time. If Granville did that this year then he'd be accused of burying his team alive, as it had some decent results.
This week though, Granville felt like a Norfolk turkey who's had the stuffing knocked out of him and good ole Mark is in the same gravy boat.
Fate wasn't content enough to wipe out all but 4 of his players (5 for Mark), it decided to go further and lay bare the lottery of the emergency captain.
Then to cap a bad week, their mini league rival 'Ben the lurker' drops a Christmas card onto their desks that had as much festive goodwill as boxing day indigestion.
So now they've decided to join forces to defeat the foe on a number of fronts, an unholy alliance that's has as much credence as a Carlos Tevez contract. At least they don't have Field Marshall Foch to do battle against, just his wisecracking alter ego.
The discussion is predictably about fixture decimation and emergency captains.